Discussion

Parking in streets for motorbikes, motorscooters and bicycles

Shane, I have changed your edit of the paragraph about resolving the issue of parking motorcycles, motorscooters. The intent of the original paragraph wasn't to remove parking for these vehicle or discourage their use. These vehicles are parked on the sidewalks because they get damaged by reversing cars if parked in the parking spaces on the road. However parking them on footpaths also eats into space for pedestrians and will increasingly conflict with the growing pedestrian activity in the city. Space needs to be made for parking these vehicles by extending footpath widths. This can be done around intersections where cars cannot park because they block view lines whereas bikes dont. I have also added bicyles into this same parking issue

-- DavidMayes - 17 May 2008 16:58

Sounds fair

-- ShaneScanlan - 17 May 2008 17:51

Shane, good to have you on the wiki. I thought you made a good point. I assume you are a motorbike rider. Are you satisfied have I captured the issue i.e. safe and convenient parking for the bikers (motorised and manual)

-- DavidMayes - 17 May 2008 17:53

Better Cycle access/less cars

If cars were restricted within the city - possibly by the conversion of some existing dual carriageway roads with one lane being converted entirely to cycle use, there would be much more incentive to cycle into the city.

This would have a two-fold influence - a healthier population due to increased activity, and a decrease in car related pollution as more people choose to cycle/take public transport as traveling by car becomes too slow/difficult.

The roads/footpaths are just as much public spaces as the parks...

-- ChrisPaine - 21 May 2008 20:33

Hi Chris - some great input here. Have you had a look through the Connected city goals? That's where you'll find more transport specific themes and discussions, which may be of interest to you.

-- StuartOuthred - 23 May 2008 10:54

Thanks Stuart. Very interesting area - I wonder if a link between these closely related areas makes sense.

-- ChrisPaine - 25 May 2008 21:30

Chris as you suggested I've made some hyperlinks between the walking and cycling Pathways and the Healthy commuity Pathway. These are pretty easy to do - You can create a link where you specify the link text and the URL separately using nested square brackets text? . So if you see an opportunity to cross link then please feel free to do so.

-- DavidMayes - 26 May 2008 14:55

East-west lanes to be shared between cyclists and pedestrians.

The proposal to share and enforce a 5 kph speed limit is a recipe for conflict.

In my edit I have proposed pedestrian only and cyclist only lanes.

By separating cyclists and pedestrians you a) remove conflict between types of users and b) provide effective high speed east-west access for cyclists in the city.

These cyclist only lanes would obviate the need for Collins and ?? Streets to be used as principal bike access routes as per the Bicycle Victoria map at the start of the plan.

More comments here: BicycleLanesInHelsinki

-- HelenLewTon - 11 Jun 2008 14:45 I have edited the bike lanes section of the indicators

1. Delete all mention of green on-road lanes. These are by definition dangerous/risky for cyclists and mark points of potential conflict with cars. Their use as an indicator is valid only if you wish to reduce them as a proportion of total bike lane length.

2. Add off-road lanes. These are often designed more for recreational cycling than commuting but do play a role in encouraging commuting. Both the Footscray Road and Yarra River trails have high levels of commuter traffic. Check figures with BV.

HelenLewTon 11 Jun 2008 - 14:28

Do you have any suggested actions to achieve this goal?

bicycle data

The number of fatal, serious and other injuries to cyclists in the municipality.
Current: In 2006, of 144 reported injuries, none were fatal, 50 were considered serious, with 94 considered 'other' injury types. VicRoads Crash Stats. ¹

Super Tuesday bike counts Current: A map of counts on 4 March 2008 is online. Cyclists perceptions survey ²³ People who travel to work by bikes.
Current: 7,265 (2.7 per cent) ⁴

Pedestrian and cyclist shared lanes, on-road cycle lanes and separated lanes as a proportion of the whole road network.
Current: In 2007, 63km (shared); 50km (on-road); 1km (separated); 114km (total).⁵

Please add them here.

References

1 : http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/RoadSafety/StatisticsAndResearch/

2 , 5 : City of Melbourne and Bicycle Victoria Bikescope Survey, available every year, reported in Melbourne Bicycle Account

3 : http://www.bv.com.au/change-the-world/30600/

4 : ABS: Journey to Work